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Berlino10 hat geschrieben:Du glaubst an den Weihnachtsmann?
Die USA interessieren sich einen Scheiss für Demokratie oder Menschenrechte, nur für ihre eigenen Interessen.

Dietrich hat geschrieben:
Du hast behauptet, Nuland hätte etwas zugegeben, ich habe ihre Aussage zitiert und analysiert.

Berlino10 hat geschrieben: Hier wurde bezweifelt, dass die Milliarden geflossen sind, auch von Dir,
"so was fällt doch auch ..." "soll das per Koffer ..."
Nuland bestätigt ihre 5 Mrd.

Admix hat geschrieben:Youtube-Video....

In view of its patent absurdity, why is this propaganda so important to Putin’s regime? Most obviously, propaganda serves the technical purpose of preparing the way for war. An excellent propaganda apparatus, such as the Russian one, can find ways to repeat its message over and over again in slightly different ways and formats. Plenty of people in the West now spread Russian propaganda, sometimes for money, sometimes from ignorance, and sometimes for reasons best known to themselves. Those who repeat the Russian propaganda conceits do not need to convince everyone, only to set the terms of debate. If people in free societies have their discussions framed for them by rulers of unfree societies, then they will not notice the history unfolding around them (a revolution just happened in Europe!) or sense the urgency of formulating policy in a desperate situation (a European country has just invaded another!). Propaganda can serve this technical purpose no matter how absurd it is.
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Take the idea of Jewish Nazis, which must be taken on if the current Kremlin propaganda about the revolution in Kiev is to have any logical basis. The claim is that Nazis made a coup; the observable reality is that some of the people now in power are Jews. And then we evince our skepticism that Jews are Nazis or that a Nazi coup would put Jews at the top of the Ukrainian state apparatus.

As Putin sat slouched in his chair at his press conference, shifting between clever one-liners and contradictory constructions, he seemed to be struggling to reconcile tactics and ideology. On the one hand, he has been an extremely good tactician, far more nimble and ruthless than almost anyone with whom he deals. He carried off his plan in Crimea with panache. He broke all the rules in an act of violence that should have opened a space for the true world, the world he wants, the glorious Russian gathering of Russian lands and peoples.
Yet dramatic action did not summon the envisioned new reality to life. Ukraine did not reveal itself to be a Russian land unhappily and temporarily ruled by a few fascists whose coup could be undone. It looks instead like a place where the revolutionary mood has been consolidated by a foreign invasion. As the chief rabbi of Ukraine put it a few days ago: “There were many differences of opinion throughout the revolution, but today all that is gone.” He continued: “We’re faced by an outside threat called Russia. It’s brought everyone together.”

The unmarked uniforms of the Russian special forces in Crimea tell this story all by themselves. Theirs was supposed to be the rapid gesture that changed the world. But with each day that passes those ski masks and unmarked uniforms look instead like symbols of shame, hesitation, lack of responsibility—indeed denial of reality.[...] It must have been enjoyable for Putin to run an operation in which his troops could pretend to be from nowhere. But it was oddly childish of him to deny, in his press conference, what everyone knew: that the troops were Russians.

Berlino10 hat geschrieben:

Dietrich hat geschrieben:
Du hast behauptet, Nuland hätte etwas zugegeben, ich habe ihre Aussage zitiert und analysiert.

Hier wurde bezweifelt, dass die Milliarden geflossen sind, auch von Dir,
"so was fällt doch auch ..." "soll das per Koffer ..."
Nuland bestätigt ihre 5 Mrd.

Das ist keine Weltsicht, sondern Geschichte und Poltik.

Jochen hat geschrieben:So langsam langweilt ihr alle!

Dietrich hat geschrieben:Jetzt wird es bizarr:

Russland lädt "Europas Faschisten" ein, um das Referendum auf der Krim zu beaobachten.
Was hälst du von solchen Wahlbeobachtern, Berlino?